Betsy Elizabeth Obray

1820 - 1892  (~ 71 years)

• Name	Betsy Elizabeth Obray
  Christened	12 Sep 1820	St Martins, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales
  Gender	Female
  Died	7 Mar 1892	Walt, Liverpool, Lancaster, England
  Buried	10 Mar 1892	Walt, Liverpool, Lancaster, England
  Person ID	I95	Wagner-Thomas
  Last Modified	27 Jan 2013

  
  

  Father	John Barnett Obray,   b. 1792, Rhosmarket, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales ,   d. 12 Dec 1845, Krug St, Pembroke Dock, Pembroke, Wales  (Age 53 years)
  Mother	Eleanor Allen,   b. 6 May 1789, Peter Market, Pembroke, Wales ,   d. 3 Dec 1848, Miles End, Sheerness, Kent, England  (Age 59 years)
  Married	20 Apr 1812	Steynton, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom
  Family ID	F62	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Alfred Watkins,   b. Abt 1820,   d. Aft Mar 1892  (Age ~ 72 years)
  Married	27 Dec 1841	St Marys Parish, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales
  Children	1. John Watkins,   b. Abt 1842,   d. 12 Nov 1882  (Age ~ 40 years)   2. William Alfred Watkins,   b. Abt 1849,   d. Yes, date unknown   3. Elizabeth Watkins,   b. Abt 1858,   d. 7 Feb 1929  (Age ~ 71 years)
  Last Modified	29 Apr 2014
  Family ID	F89	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Event Map

  Christened - 12 Sep 1820 - St Martins, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales Married - 27 Dec 1841 - St Marys Parish, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales  = Link to Google Earth

  
  

• Notes

  1820 BIR,CHR:Rcds-M, Eugene Hecker: bn 1820-prob Pembroke Rcds of John & Lucille Bankhead Jul 2000: Chr 12 Sep 1820, St Marys, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales from rcds of Emma J Facer, dec'd, also known as Aubrey or Awbrey 1841 MARRIAGE: Rcds-M, Eugene Hecker: md Alfred Watkins 27 Dec 1841 St Marys Rcds of John & Lucille Bankhead Jul 2000: 27 Dec 1841, St Marys, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales from IGI: #A455154 Call #455154-SS: Betsy or Elizabeth Awbrey md Alfred Watkins 27 Dec 1841 1892 DEATH: Rcds-M, Eugene Hecker: 7 Mar 1892, Walt, Liverpool, Lancaster, England Rcds of John & Lucille Bankhead Jul 2000: 7 Mar 1892, no place, from Certif, Gen Registers Ofc & IGI From Pat Holling, Oct 2003: From "Genealogical Research in England and Wales" Vol 1 pp 40-42 by David E Gardner & Frank Smith, Bookcraft Publishers, SLC Utah, 1956: "This is taken from the case relating to the family of Thomas L. Obray. He was bn in 1821 in Pembroke, Wales, and went to America in 1855 where he died in 1899. Among his records he left was the name of his sister, Mrs. Elizabeth Watkins, wife of Alfred Watkins. She was bn in 1820 in Pembroke, but after her marriage she went to reside in Liverpool, England, more than 250 miles away from her birthplace. He death was stated to have taken place in 1891 in the vicinity of Liverpool. Application to the Registrar General, Somerset House, London, traced the death as follows: Registration District West Derby Death in the subdistrict of Walton, Counties Bootle and Lancaster Died 7 March 1892 at 66 Winslow Street, Walton Elizabeth Watkins aged 74 years, wife of Alfred Watkins, a journeyman joiner. Informant A. Watkins, same address. “Then the 1891 census was requested from the Registrar General, and the information recieved as follows: Head - William A. Watkins, married, age 41, Joiner, born Liverpool. Mother - Elizabeth Watkins, married, age 73, born Pembroke Dock. Sister - Eleanor Herschman, married, age 35, born Liverpool. Niece - Lizzie Herschman, age 1, born Liverpool. “If a family grave and tombstone existed, in which of the many cemeteries belonging to Liverpool would the record be? A letter was written to the town clerk, Municipal Building, Liverpool, stating that Mrs. Elizabeth Watkins died at Winslow Street, Walton, West Derby (a suburb of Liverpool) and explaining that she was the sister of Thomas L. Obray and closely related to the family making the enquiry. A reply was received from the town clerk. He pointed out that the records of several cemeteries in the north-end of the city had been searched and that the records of the Kirkdale Cemetery, Longmoor Lane, Liverpool, had disclosed a list of interments in Grave No. 136, Section 1 of the Church of England Division as follows: Date of Interment Name of Deceased Age 10 March 1892 Elizabeth Watkins 74 years 27 March 1894 Ellen Hurschman 12 months 7 March 1924 Wm. Alfred Johnson 27 years (307 Hawthorn Rd. Bootle) 25 Nov. 1924 Wm. Alfred Watkins 75 years 12 Feb. 1929 Elizabeth Watkins 71 years “Information was also given that the grave had been purchased by William Alfred Watkins of 66 Winslow Street and later transferred to Mary Ellen Hurschman. “A request was then made to the same office, asking whether arrangements could be made to employ some person connected with the Cemeteries Department to inspect the grave lot No. 136, Section 1 of Kirkdale Cemetery, to find whether a tombstone still existed. This resulted in the cemetery superintendent’s having an examination of the grave made and reporting that a headstone had the following inscription: In Loving Remembrance of Elizabeth Watkins who died on March 6, 1892 aged 77 years John son of above who died on Nov. 12 1882 aged 40 years Ellen Hurschman, granddaughter of the above who died March 24, 1894 aged 12 months William Alfred Johnson (Private Royal Welsh Fusiliers) grandson of above,Who died Mar. 3 1924 from wounds received in France November 1917, aged 27 years. William Alfred Watkins, son of above, who died Nov. 21, 1924 aged 75 years. Elizabeth Watkins, daughter of above who died Feb. 7, 1929 aged 71 years. “Note that information is recorded on the tombstone about a person who was not buried in the grave, namely John, a son who died in 1882. Note also that the record of this family is brought down to as late as 1929. Additional records of death were obtained from the Registrar General that identified those mentioned on the tombstone. An advertisement was placed in the newspaper circulating in Walton, Liverpool; this resulted in contacting close relatives of those mentioned, and these relatives were able to supply many details of the family group record and descent of this branch of the family. “ BIR,MG,DTH,BUR,ORD: AFN:2JV9-XW bn 12 Sep 1820 St Marys, dd 7 Mar 1892 Winslow St, Walt, Liverpool, Lancaster, England, bur same. Md Alfred Watkins 27 Dec 1841, no place. ORD: TIB, SL Temple: shown as 28 May and 2 Jun (CK OUT) From Pat Holling 2003: From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.