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(Jean ) Juan Baptiste Bouttier

Male 1802 - Aft 1876  (74 years)


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  1. 1.  (Jean ) Juan Baptiste Bouttier was born 12 Dec 1802, Lyon, Rhône, Rhône-Alpes, France; died After 1876.

    Notes:

    07222018 Additional information regarding Leopoldo, his brother Carlos "Charles" and their mother Juana and father Juan Baptiste Bouttier; it may be that Juan Baptiste Bouttier knew Ygnacio Fletes from Tepic, Nayarit where there was plans to build a textile factory and if Juan traveled to Mexico, he may have met Juana and then Juana my have traveled to Franch where the Leopoldo and Carlos "Charles" were born. Later Ygnacio Fletes met with Leopoldo and Carlos who helped with the operation of the textile factory near Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico.

    Name:
    The middle name could also be spelled 'Bautista'.

    The middle name in French is spelled 'Baptiste' and in Spanish it is spelled 'Bautista' and the English translation is Baptist. In the marriage and death records the last name is Bouttier.

    Died:
    Based on marriage record of their son Carlos Bouttier who married in 1876 which states Juan Baptiste was still alive at that time.

    (Jean married Juana Maria Ponce Santiago. Juana (daughter of Phelipe Ponce Ramires and Maria Phelipa Santiago Merino) was born 22 Jun 1804, Indaparapeo, Michoacán, Mexico; was christened 25 Jun 1804, Indaparapeo, Michoacán, Mexico; died After 1876. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 2. Leopoldo Jose "The French" Bouttier Ponce  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1826, Le Havre, France; died After 1867, Mazatlan, Sinaloa, Mexico.
    2. 3. Carlos "Charles" Bouttier Ponce  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1830, Le Havre, France; died 6 Sep 1897, Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico; was buried , Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Leopoldo Jose "The French" Bouttier PonceLeopoldo Jose "The French" Bouttier Ponce Descendancy chart to this point (1.(Jean1) was born Abt 1826, Le Havre, France; died After 1867, Mazatlan, Sinaloa, Mexico.

    Notes:

    Leopoldo's brother Carlos made appeal to the U.S. government to aid in the release of Leopoldo from prison in Mazatlan to no avail.
    Leopoldo came from France in 1840 with the title of Doctor, based on the following website http://chaikobarraza.wordpress.com/page/2/

    05232018 Entry of information: According to a descendant of Leopoldo (Alberto Bouttier)....Leopoldo Bouttier "The French" Bouttier Ponce may have attending the University in Paris, France (Sorbonne University) which did offer a degree in medicine.

    07222018 Additional information regarding Leopoldo, his brother Carlos "Charles" and their mother Juana and father Juan Baptiste Bouttier; it may be that Juan Baptiste Bouttier knew Ygnacio Fletes from Tepic, Nayarit where there were plans to build a textile factory in Tepic, Nayarit and if Juan traveled to Mexico, he may have met Juana and then Juana my have traveled to France where Leopoldo and Carlos "Charles" Bouttier were born. Later Ygnacio Fletes met with Leopoldo and Carlos who helped with the operation of the textile factory near Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico. Leopoldo Bouttier married one of Ygnacio Fletes daugthers. Carlos Bouttier married a lady that worked at the textile plant in Tepic, Nayarit.

    07162019 In the "Chronicles of a Life" 2 September 2009 it mentions that "Leopoldo Bouttier who was an employee of Ignacio Fletes and who, of course, fled to Belgium along with his brother Carlos for not agreeing with the republic and on his return brought machinery, textiles and Belgium technicians to set up an industry in Tepic."

    02142020 Additional research is needed regarding the possibility of Leopoldo Bouttier being married to Jesus aria Ignacia Basilia.

    Birth:
    According to Polo Bouttier, Leopoldo Jose "The French" Bouttier Ponce was born in Le Harve, Normandy, France; the same location as his first brother Carlos. Also the original birth date entry was 1846 but has now been changed to Abt. 1826 to be more aligned with family birth dates.

    Died:
    The original entry date of death was about 1867 based on an article written 23 September 2011 found on the following web address:
    https://chaikobarraza.wordpress.com/2011/09/

    10.14.2021 In the death record of Ygnacia Cibrian Garcia, whose parents are Joseph Maria Leonardo de la Trinidad Cibrian de la Riva y Rada and Maria Francisca Garcia, it mentions Leopoldo Bouttier from "Havre" who advised the local civil office of the death of Ygnacia Cibrina Garcia. Leopoldo Bouttier signed the death record. Polo believes the person who signed it was his son "Leopoldo Jose Numa Bouttier Fletes."

    Leopoldo married Maria de Jesus Ygnacia Basilia Fletes Nuñez Abt 1860. Maria (daughter of Jose Ygnacio Fletes Rico and Maria de Jesus Josefa de la Trinidad Nuñez Gaxiola) was born 20 Jun 1816, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 26 Aug 1893, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 4. Matilde Bouttier Fletes  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt. 1860, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died Abt. 1870, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico.
    2. 5. Dr. Leopoldo José Numa Bouttier Fletes  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1861; died 2 Mar 1902, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico.
    3. 6. Maria Bouttier Fletes  Descendancy chart to this point was born 3 Aug 1865, Copala, Sinaloa, Mexico; died Yes, date unknown.

  2. 3.  Carlos "Charles" Bouttier Ponce Descendancy chart to this point (1.(Jean1) was born 1830, Le Havre, France; died 6 Sep 1897, Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico; was buried , Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico.

    Notes:

    At the marriage were: 'Padrinos' Luis Figuroa and Francisca Miramantes and 'Testigos' Miguel y Ygnacia Garcia.

    07222018 Additional information regarding Leopoldo, his brother Carlos "Charles" and their mother Juana and father Juan Baptiste Bouttier; it may be that Juan Baptiste Bouttier knew Ygnacio Fletes from Tepic, Nayarit where there was plans to build a textile factory and if Juan traveled to Mexico, he may have met Juana and then Juana my have traveled to Franch where the Leopoldo and Carlos "Charles" were born. Later Ygnacio Fletes met with Leopoldo and Carlos who helped with the operation of the textile factory near Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico.

    Birth:
    Marriage record states Carlos age is 46 years old. Record also indicates he was a resident of France for 26 years.

    Died:
    In the death record it states that Carlos Bouttier was 66 years of age and that he was originally from Le Havre, France.

    Carlos married Maria Nestor Ygnacia Flores Rincon 18 Dec 1876, Senor De La Ascension, Santiago Ixcuintla, Nayarit, Mexico. Maria (daughter of Lorenzo Ypolito Flores Sevilla and Maria Guadalupe de la Trinidad Rincon Ybarra) was born 24 Feb 1845, Cocula, Jalisco, Mexico; was christened 27 Feb 1845, San Miguel, Cocula, Jalisco, Mexico; died Yes, date unknown. [Group Sheet]



Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Matilde Bouttier Fletes Descendancy chart to this point (2.Leopoldo2, 1.(Jean1) was born Abt. 1860, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died Abt. 1870, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico.

    Notes:

    Birth:
    According to Polo Bouttier, she lived until the age of 10.

    Name:
    Matilde Bouttier Ponce last name may be 'Fletes' which is the last name of her mother. This information is found on the website: https://chaikobarraza.wordpress.com/2011/09/


  2. 5.  Dr. Leopoldo José Numa Bouttier FletesDr. Leopoldo José Numa Bouttier Fletes Descendancy chart to this point (2.Leopoldo2, 1.(Jean1) was born Abt 1861; died 2 Mar 1902, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico.

    Notes:

    According to this website https://chaikobarraza.wordpress.com/page/2/
    Leopoldo studied medicine in Mexico City. Degree in Mexico.
    In the marriage record it states that the parents of Fransisca Cibrian 'Juan Jose Cibrian and Paula Aragon' were deceased. Also deceased were the parents of Leopoldo Bouttier 'Leopoldo Bouttier and Ygnacia Fletes.'

    Birth:
    Born about 1861 according to marriage record which states he was 23 years old in October 1884.

    Name:
    It has been mentioned that his name 'Numa' may also be Newman.

    Leopoldo married Francisca "Pachita" Sibrian / Cibrian Aragon 31 Oct 1884, San Francisco de Asís, Escuinapa, Sinaloa, Mexico. Francisca (daughter of Juan José Cibrian Garcia and Maria Paula de Jesus Aragon Beltran) was born Abt 1865, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; was buried , Marmol, Sinaloa, Mexico. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 7. Maria Matilde Bertha Bouttier Sibrian  Descendancy chart to this point was born 14 Mar 1886, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 19 Apr 1951, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico.
    2. 8. Jose Carlos Guillermo Bouttier Sibrian  Descendancy chart to this point was born 25 Jun 1887, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; was christened 15 Jul 1887, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 28 Dec 1977, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
    3. 9. Maria Bouttier Sibrian  Descendancy chart to this point was born 22 Apr 1889, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 25 Feb 1891, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico.
    4. 10. Leopoldo José Bouttier Sibrian  Descendancy chart to this point was born 4 May 1891, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; was buried , Marmol, Sinaloa, Mexico.

  3. 6.  Maria Bouttier Fletes Descendancy chart to this point (2.Leopoldo2, 1.(Jean1) was born 3 Aug 1865, Copala, Sinaloa, Mexico; died Yes, date unknown.

    Notes:

    In 2014 Polo Bouttier said that Maria Bouttier had one more name after Bouttier which was Sibrian.

    Per Alberto 5/15/2015 - Rafael told Alberto that Maria's husband, Antonio lost a large family estate (today is the National Bank of Mexico) in a poker game.

    Birth:
    07082016 in Ancestory.com the birth location shows as: Santa María Guienagati, Mexico

    Maria married Antonio Murúa Moreno 20 Aug 1887, Chametla, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico. Antonio (son of Ygnacio Murúa and Juana Maria Nepomuceno Moreno) was born 28 Feb 1856, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 15 Dec 1917, Mazatlán, Sinaloa, Mexico. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 11. Carmen "Carmela" Murúa  Descendancy chart to this point was born 10 Jul 1910, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 24 Jan 2005, Novato, Marin, California, USA; was buried , Holy Cross Colma, Colma, San Mateo, California, USA.


Generation: 4

  1. 7.  Maria Matilde Bertha Bouttier SibrianMaria Matilde Bertha Bouttier Sibrian Descendancy chart to this point (5.Leopoldo3, 2.Leopoldo2, 1.(Jean1) was born 14 Mar 1886, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 19 Apr 1951, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico.

    Notes:

    At the recording of her name, her grandparents were stated as Leopoldo Bouttier and Ignacia Fletes (both already deceased, they were 'materna de los finados') and witnesses Juan Jose Cibrian and Paula Aragon.

    One location where Matilde Bertha Bouttier Sibrian lived was 727 W. 58 St. Los Angeles, California during 1939 when her mother visited her based on her mothers border crossing 6 June 1939.

    Maria married Genaro Noris Macias 27 Sep 1907. Genaro (son of Joaquin Noris Tirado and Francisca Macias de Noris Padilla) was born 19 Aug 1882, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; was christened 27 Aug 1882, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 24 Sep 1927, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; was buried 15 Aug 1929, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 12. Guadalupe Noris  Descendancy chart to this point was born 15 Oct 1910, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 5 Oct 1986, El Paso, El Paso, Texas, United States.
    2. 13. Matilde Bertha Noris  Descendancy chart to this point was born 9 Oct 1912, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 1 Aug 1979, Canoga Park, Los Angeles, California, USA; was buried , San Fernando Mission Cemetery, Mission Hills, Los Angeles, California, USA.
    3. 14. Joaquin Venustiano Noris  Descendancy chart to this point was born 24 Apr 1914, Mexico City, Federal District, Mexico; died 16 Oct 1996, Nogales, Sonora, Mexico; was buried , Nogales, Sonora, Mexico.

  2. 8.  Jose Carlos Guillermo Bouttier Sibrian Descendancy chart to this point (5.Leopoldo3, 2.Leopoldo2, 1.(Jean1) was born 25 Jun 1887, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; was christened 15 Jul 1887, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 28 Dec 1977, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.

    Notes:

    Also has a nick name of "Charles William". In the birth record for Jose Carlos Guillermo Bouttier Sibrian, it mentions the names of Antonio Murua and Francisca E. de Murua as padrinos.

    Jose married Ramona Murillo Vargas 17 Mar 1915, Santa Rosalia, Baja California Sur, Mexico. Ramona (daughter of Valentin Murillo Osuna and Manuela Vargas Romero) was born 24 Jul 1890, Comondú, Baja California Sur, Mexico; was christened 6 Feb 1913, Comondú, Baja California Sur, Mexico; died 28 Nov 1977, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 15. Carlos Ricardo Guillermo Bouttier Murillo  Descendancy chart to this point was born 17 Apr 1916, Santa Rosalia, Baja California Sur, Mexico; died Apr 2009, Mazatlán, Sinaloa, Mexico.
    2. 16. Maria Mercedes Bouttier Murillo  Descendancy chart to this point was born 30 Jan 1919, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; was christened 5 Feb 1920, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died Abt. 2011.
    3. 17. Leopoldo Jose Bouttier Murillo  Descendancy chart to this point was born 7 Nov 1919, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; was christened 5 Feb 1920, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico.
    4. 18. Maria del Rosario Bouttier Murillo  Descendancy chart to this point was born 25 Nov 1921, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 7 Sep 2007, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico.
    5. 19. César Bouttier Murillo  Descendancy chart to this point was born 8 Dec 1923, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico.
    6. 20. Sahara Bouttier Murillo  Descendancy chart to this point was born 8 Feb 1926, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; was christened 22 Feb 1926, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died Jun 1926, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico.

  3. 9.  Maria Bouttier Sibrian Descendancy chart to this point (5.Leopoldo3, 2.Leopoldo2, 1.(Jean1) was born 22 Apr 1889, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 25 Feb 1891, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico.

    Notes:

    At the death were "Testigos" Pedro Leon and Antonio J. Corella.

    Died:
    "México, Sinaloa, Registro Civil, 1861-1929", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Z462-182M : 11 May 2020), Maria Bouttier Ciibrian. Film 101170353 image 520.

    Maria married . Unknown [Group Sheet]


  4. 10.  Leopoldo José Bouttier SibrianLeopoldo José Bouttier Sibrian Descendancy chart to this point (5.Leopoldo3, 2.Leopoldo2, 1.(Jean1) was born 4 May 1891, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; was buried , Marmol, Sinaloa, Mexico.

    Notes:

    Within the manifest list for Leopoldo Jose Bouttier Sibrian from Mexico to the U.S.A, there is the arrival contact names of Matilde Corrella and Guillermo Juan Jose and a departure contact of Francisca Scoriano Juan Jose in Rosario.
    At Leopoldo José Bouttier Sibrian wedding of 27 Mar 1920, his brother Carlos G. Bouttier attended the marriage based on the wedding record.

    Leopoldo married Matilde Corella Quintero 27 Mar 1920, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico. Matilde (daughter of Antonio Corella and Juana Quintero) was born Abt 1890, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died Abt. 1964. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 21. Living  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 22. Juan José Bouttier Corella  Descendancy chart to this point was born 13 Sep 1922, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 14 Aug 1995, La Paz, Baja California Sur, Mexico.

    Leopoldo married Maria Medina Abt. 1864. Maria was born Abt. 1891, Sinaloa, Mexico. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 23. Raul Bouttier Medina  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt. 1937, Sinaloa, Mexico; died Abt. 2012.

  5. 11.  Carmen "Carmela" Murúa Descendancy chart to this point (6.Maria3, 2.Leopoldo2, 1.(Jean1) was born 10 Jul 1910, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 24 Jan 2005, Novato, Marin, California, USA; was buried , Holy Cross Colma, Colma, San Mateo, California, USA.

    Other Events:

    • Immigration: 30 Apr 1922, San Francisco, California, U.S.A.; "United States Index to Alien Case Files, 1940-2003," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6FY4-471Z : 16 December 2022), Murua De, 30 Apr 1922; citing Immigration, Alien Registration Number , "Index to Alien Case Files at the National Archives at Kansas City, ca. 1975 - 2012," NAID 5821836, Records of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, 2003 - 2004, RG 566, National Archives at Kansas City. Registration Number 19174124 Name: Carmen Murua De Christiansen

    Notes:

    Buried:
    "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVGR-TQT9 : 7 February 2023), Carmela Murua Christiansen, ; Burial, Colma, San Mateo, California, United States of America, Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery; citing record ID 131618401, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.

    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/131618401/carmela-christiansen

    Carmen married Frank Charles Christiansen 13 Jun 1931, San Francisco, San Francisco, California, U.S.A.. Frank (son of Thomas Christian Christiansen and Johanne Charlotte Anderson) was born 8 Oct 1910, D Barnie, Norway; died 3 Sep 1972, Redwood City, San Mateo, California, U.S.A.; was buried , Holy Cross Colma, Colma, San Mateo, California, USA . [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 24. Sylvia Charlotte Christiansen  Descendancy chart to this point was born 23 Mar 1934, San Francisco, California, U.S.A.; died 23 Jul 2017, Novato, Marin County, California, U.S.A..


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