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Luciano married Matilde Bertha Noris 24 Apr 1937, Los Angeles, California. Matilde (daughter of Genaro Noris Macias and Maria Matilde Bertha Bouttier Sibrian) was born 9 Oct 1912, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 1 Aug 1979, Canoga Park, Los Angeles, California, USA; was buried , San Fernando Mission Cemetery, Mission Hills, Los Angeles, California, USA. [Group Sheet]

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Buried:
Section G, Row 27, Space 111

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Married:
When the average income was $1,368 the 1940 census shows Luciano making $1,820 per month as a Radio Engineer working 40 hours a week and 52 weeks a year. This is an amazing feat considering Luciano had only been a U.S. citizen since 30 November 1934. His choice of a technical occupation leaves him and his family virtually unaffected by the Great Depression (1930's - 1940's).

Residences:
137 30th Street, Loa Angeles, California (1937)
(Bertha lived there and had her wedding shower 7th
February 1937)
239 W 42nd Street, Los Angeles, California (1938)
727 W 58 Street, Los Angeles, California (1939)
1563 W 112 Street, Los Angeles, California (1952)
32 10th Street, Hermosa Beach, California (1959)
7922 Vassar Ave., Canoga Park, California (1969)

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Birth:
Verification of the birth date is found on his headstone which is 18 December 1884.

Name:
Bith record has the name as 'Jose Luciano de Jesus Astorga'.

Died:
Source: The Tomb where he buried shows 14 June 1966.

José married Amalia Torres Ocón Abt 1909. Amalia (daughter of Vicente Torres and Gregoriana Ocón) was born Abt 1886, Santo Tomas, Chontales, Nicaragua; died 1912, Masaya, Masaya, Nicaragua. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

MyHeritage mentions "born Ocon"
Siblings: Ana Rose Torres Ocon, Manuela Torres Ocon
Two possible siblings: Ana Rosa Torres Ocon and Manuela Torres Ocon. Mother was Gregoriana Ocon. Father was Vicente Torres.
Source: MyHeritage.com

Birth:
First marriage; may have been in 1915. Source Luciano Torres Astorga.

Information provided in conversation with Luciano Torres Astorga in 1990, he mentioned that Amalia Torres may have been born in Santos Tomas, Nicaragua

Died:
Amalia Torres Ocon did not die after a childbirth. The death year was 1912. Also Amalia Torres Ocon died in Masaya, Masaya, Nicaragua.
Source: Luciano Torres Astorga.

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Married:
First marriage of Jose Luciano de Jesus Astorga Fonseca.
Source: Luciano Torres Astorga and Adelina Astorga Aragon.

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Birth:
Source: FHL 101109733 Page 1487.

Died:
Based on Pedigree Chart 7.30.1986 of J.R. Astorga.

Genaro married Maria Matilde Bertha Bouttier Sibrian 27 Sep 1907. Maria (daughter of Dr. Leopoldo José Numa Bouttier Fletes and Francisca "Pachita" Sibrian / Cibrian Aragon) was born 14 Mar 1886, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died 19 Apr 1951, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico. [Group Sheet]

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At the recording of her name, her grandparents were stated as Leopoldo Bouttier and Ignacia Fletes (both already deceased, they were 'materna de los finados') and witnesses Juan Jose Cibrian and Paula Aragon.

One location where Matilde Bertha Bouttier Sibrian lived was 727 W. 58 St. Los Angeles, California during 1939 when her mother visited her based on her mothers border crossing 6 June 1939.

Notes:

According to Alejandro Miranda, 1861-1937 in his journal on page 84 http://www.skidmore.edu/~switt/Spanishvers.pdf Alejandro visited his uncle Luciano at his ranch El Puntiagudo() around 1898 for a financial transaction involving cattle.

Birth:
Birth year based on birth record of his son Jose Luciano de Jesus Astorga Fonseca. The record states his age of 47.

In 1990, information provided in conversation with Luciano Torres Astorga mentioned that his paternal grandfather may have been born in Spain.

Luciano married Maria de Jesus Fonseca Abt 1884, Nicaragua. Maria (daughter of Fonseca) was born Abt. 1839, Chontales, Nicaragua. [Group Sheet]

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Birth:
The estimated birth year based on the birth record of her son Jose Luciano de Jesus Astorga Fonseca. Birth location needs verification.


Name:
In the death record of her husband Luciano Astorga Morales, it mentions that her name is "Maria de Jesus Fonseca."
The marriage record of her son Jose Luciano de Jesus Astorga Fonseca, it states that Maria Fonseca is his mother and is married to his father Luciano Astorga Morales.

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Married:
Death record of Luciano Astorga Morales states he is married to Maria de Jesus Fonseca.

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Birth:
Birth year and location based on birth record of Manuela Torres Ocon.

Buried:
Source: MyHeritage.com

Died:
Death date: Based on death record of daughter Manuela.

Source: MyHeritage.com

Vicente married Gregoriana Ocón 1884, Acoyapa, Chontales, Nicaragua. Gregoriana was born 1863, Acoyapa, Chontales, Nicaragua; died 7 Aug 1911, Managua, Managua, Nicaragua. [Group Sheet]

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Birth:
Birth year and location based on birth record of Manuela Torres Ocon.

Name:
Maiden name supported by the death record of her daughter Manuela and birth record of her other daughter Ana Rosa.
09.14.2019 first name changed to "Gregoriana" based on birth record of daughter Manuela.

Died:
"Nicaragua Registro Civil, 1809-2013," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6GXG-SY?cc=1601210&wc=Q69L-N26%3A116559001%2C116559002%2C116559003%2C117442904 : 6 June 2021), Managua > Managua > Managua > Defunciones 1911 > image 545 of 603; Asociación de municipios de Nicaragua (Association of Nicaragua Municipalities), Amunic. Film 4209298 image 545.

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Married:
Parents of Manuela Torres
Source: Death record of Manuela Torres.

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Consent of parents for the Marriage of Joaquin Noris and Fransisca Macias

Record of Engagement of Joaquin Noris and Fransisca Macias.

This was translated 25 years ago - Not sure who did the translating.

November 28, 1979

Jesus Macias, father, of Fransisca Macias gives permission for her to marry.
About the bride: Fransisca moved from Mazatlan, Mexico, 6 years ago, 1873, and is 18 years old.
Her parents are Jesus Macias and Ester Padilla, both living.

The bridge groom, Joaquin Noris, is 23 years old. His father is Genaro Noris and his mother is Ignacia Tirado, both parents dead.

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Record of marriage of Joaquin Noris and Fransisca Macias from computer, hard to read the writing.

Translation from computer
In the parish church at Rosario February three, thousand eight hundred eighty I Priest Trinidad Cortes, the priest in charge of this jurisdiction upon the information style, the three council; the confession and communion married veiled at first bridal to Joaquin Noris with Francisca Macias, I took them by the hands on twenty-four of December and see him in February this year. Were godparents Téofilo Noris and Victoriana Noris. Witnesses of this act known as Morcora Sanas and Manuel Cañedo, that I give Notary number.

Joaquin married Francisca Macias de Noris Padilla 3 Feb 1880, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico. Francisca (daughter of Jesus Macias del Rio and Maria Ester Padilla Rodrigues) was born 1862, Mazatlan, Sinaloa, Mexico; died Oct 1952, Mexico City, Mexico City, Mexico; was buried , Mexico City, Mexico City, Mexico. [Group Sheet]

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At the marriage were 'Padrinos' Tiofilo Noris and Victoriana Noris. 'Testigos' were Sabas Moscoso.

Birth:
Based on Pedigree Chart 7.30.1986 of J.R. Astorga.

Died:
Based on Pedigree Chart 7.30.1986 of J.R. Astorga.

Notes:

According to this website https://chaikobarraza.wordpress.com/page/2/
Leopoldo studied medicine in Mexico City. Degree in Mexico.
In the marriage record it states that the parents of Fransisca Cibrian 'Juan Jose Cibrian and Paula Aragon' were deceased. Also deceased were the parents of Leopoldo Bouttier 'Leopoldo Bouttier and Ygnacia Fletes.'

Birth:
Born about 1861 according to marriage record which states he was 23 years old in October 1884.

Name:
It has been mentioned that his name 'Numa' may also be Newman.

Leopoldo married Francisca "Pachita" Sibrian / Cibrian Aragon 31 Oct 1884, San Francisco de Asís, Escuinapa, Sinaloa, Mexico. Francisca (daughter of Juan José Cibrian Garcia and Maria Paula de Jesus Aragon Beltran) was born Abt 1865, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; was buried , Marmol, Sinaloa, Mexico. [Group Sheet]

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Border Crossing
Name: Francisca Sibrian Vda De Bouttier
Arrival Date: 17 Jun 1939
Arrival Port: Nogales
Birth Date: 1865
Birthplace: El Rosario Sin
Birth Country: Mexico
Gender: Female
Departure Contact Name: Son Leopoldo Bouttier
Arrival Contact Name: Daughter Matilda Bouttier De Nous
Photograph Included: No
Affiliate Record Identifier: Azm1769_72-5501

NARA microfilm publication M1769, roll 72, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.

Francisca "Panchita Sibrian Aragon was born at the "Hacienda de San Rafael" near Rosario, Mexico. This information was provided by the grand-daughter Ernestina Sibrian in June 2014.
In the marriage record it states that the parents of Fransisca Cibrian 'Juan Jose Cibrian and Paula Aragon' were deceased. Also deceased were the parents of Leopoldo Bouttier 'Leopoldo Bouttier and Ygnacia Fletes.'

Birth:
Rafael Bouttier said that the place where Leonardo and his daughter Ernestina and Francisca "Pacheta" Sibrian were all born was called ‘Hacienda de San Rafael’ or also known as 'El Rancho Maniscal' which is east of El Rosario about 1-2 miles.