Jose Hilario Cibrian Garcia

Notes:

At the christening were 'Madrina' Josefa Padilla.

Notes:

Ernestina, Leonardo's great-granddaughter said, in an interview in 2014, that her great-grandfather Leonardo Cibrian went by the name of 'Juan Jose.'
At the christening was 'Madrina' Margarita de Lizarraga. Polo Bouttier believes that Joseph Maria de la Trinidad Cibrian de Riva y Rada is a brother of Jose Maria de la Riva y Rada (priest).

Birth:
"México bautismos, 1560-1950", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NG9Z-8G9 : 19 May 2021), Joseph Maria Leonardo Cibrian Riva, 1788. Film 676066 image 325 - 326.

Joseph married Maria Francisca Garcia. Maria was born Abt. 1798, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico; died Before 26 May 1877. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

'Padrinos' Juan de la Fuente and Maria _________ Padilla.

Birth:
Birth year based on husband birth date. Location based on death record of daughter Ygnacica Sibrian Garcia.

Name:
Some of the children born mention "Maria Francisca" and other documents only mention "Francisca".

Notes:

At the christening was 'Madrina' Rita de la Vega y Vique.

At the marriage were 'Testigos' Antonino Nuñez and Santana Nuñez, Domingo Yrdiayn.

Juan married Maria Josefa de la Riva y Rada 15 Apr 1784, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico. Maria (daughter of Francisco Antonio de la Riva y Rada Molledo and Guzmán) was born Abt. 1764; died Before 28 Jul 1822. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

At the marriage were 'Testigos' (Possibly a married couple) Antonino Nuñez and Santana Nuñez, Domingo Urdiayn.

Possible father of Maria Josepha de la Riva y Rada and possible spouse of Maria Josepha Narcisa Cortes Díaz:
Francisco de la Riva: FamilySearch.org (LTRZ-7WT) is Francisco de la Riva record.

Birth:
Estimated based on husband birth date.

Name:
The original entry had the last name 'Guzman' but eliminated it on 09172017 based on FamilySearch.org record had no mention of 'Guzman'.

The last name "Riva y Rada" is noted in the marriage record of her daughter Maria Josefa de Jesus Cibrian de la Riva y Rada and also the daughter Maria Josepha Victoriana Cibrián Riva y Rada birth record.

On 08.05.2021 the last name "Cortes" was removed based on lack of supporting documentation.

***In talking with Polo today (08.21.2021) THE MOTHER IS NOT Maria Josepha Narcisa Guzmán Camacho. The father is Joseph (José) Maria Riva y Rada, a priest. In the marriage document Juan José de la Luz Cibrian, the father's name is Francisco de la Riva (he is not the father). He is an uncle to Maria Josepha de la Riva y Rada. Priest were not to have children so Francisco name is written on the document and brother of Manuel Antonio de la Riva y Rada.***

Mother's name is unknown.

11.23.2021 In FamilySearch.org, Maria Josefa de la Riva y Rada ID number is LHGS-62L. Currently, she is attached to a father Francisco de la Riva y Rada LTRZ-7WT that will be merged with Francisco Antonio de la Riva y Rada Marcela FamilySearch ID number GDWS-TG2.

11.23.2021 Also her current FamilySearch.org ID is LHGS-62L.

Died:
Based on marriage record of Maria Jesus Sibrian de la Riva y Rada to Miguel Juan Quiroz.

Notes:

At the marriage were 'Padrinos' Juan Antonio de Urdiayn and his sister Ygnacia Urdiayn. The 'Testigos' were Vicente Gaxiola, Andres Compillo.

Name:
The first name 'Juan' is noted in the christening record of his son Juan Jose de la Luz Cibrian de Rendon 6 December 1764.

Died:
Based on marriage record of son Juan Jose de la Luz Rendon and Maria Josefa Riva y Rada Guzman.

Juan married Martha Rendon 16 Nov 1763, Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico. Martha was born Abt 1740; died Before 15 Apr 1784. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

At the marriage were 'Padrinos' Juan Antonio de Urdiayn and his sister Ygnacia Urdiayn. The 'Testigos' were Vicente Gaxiola and Anores Compillo.

Died:
Based on marriage record of son Juan Jose de la Luz Rendon and Maria Josefa Riva y Rada Guzman.

Notes:

Birth:
Location based on death record.

Name:
Polo suggests that the brother of Francisco de la Riva y Rada is Manuel del la Riva y Rada and were both born in Spain at a location called 'Villa de Lladro' (it could be spelled "Laredo," in the Cantabria region of Spain. The capital is "Santander.")

Full name based on death his record.

11.23.2021 for Maria Josefa Narcisa Guzman Camacho on FamilySearch.org ID number is GMWJ-MMK and unlinked with Francisco de la Riva y Rada today.

Died:
Died before 15 April 1784 based on marriage record of daughter Maria Josefa Riva y Rada Guzman and Juan Jose de la Luz Cibrian Rendon.

Source for Information Below from Death Document:
Death: 10 Jan 1784 Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
Name: Francisco Antonio de la Riva y Rada
Born in Larado, Santander, Spain
Father: Manuel de la Riva y Rada (died prior)
Mother: Maria Marcela Molledo (died prior)
Married to Maria Francisca Verduo and had a son who died at a young age (tieana edad)
Sister name is Maria de la Riva y Rada who lives in Laredo
1000 pesos to his sister in Spain (living in Clausula)
6 July of same year something also was to be done
Also "Sonores Hicialeis Realeis de Veracruz"??

Francisco married Guzmán. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Second lady to have a child with Francisco de la Riva y Rada. A daughter was born by the name of Maria Josefa Riva y Rada born about 1764, based on the age of her husband Juan José de la Luz Cibrian Rendon; born 15 April 1784.

There is a Will by Francisco de la Riva y Rada which mentions the two ladies names and children's names that were born to him. These events may have been out of wedlock. The Will mentions this information; distribution of his estate (money) especially to Maria Josefa de la Riva y Rada.